We live in a time where Muslims are being scrutinized and their actions are being nitpicked and dissected.
At a time like this, Muslim leaders should be stepping up and leading by example.
We live in a time where Muslims are being scrutinized and their actions are being nitpicked and dissected. At a time like this, Muslim leaders should be stepping up and leading by example.
Just over a month ago, on Friday, June 10, a human rights activist and a television program analyst, Marvi Sirmed, was verbally abused by one of these so-called leaders.
Hafiz Hamdullah, the verbal abuser, is a Pakistani Senator and a representative of the religious political party Jamiat-i-Ulema-i-Islam Fazl (JUI-F).
During the month of Ramadan, while much of the Muslim population is fasting and trying to grow in their spirituality, a female activist is being told by a religious Pakistani leader that she is a “whore” and that if she doesn’t respect him that he will “remove her trousers and her mother’s too.”
During the month of Ramadan, while much of the Muslim population is fasting and trying to grow in their spirituality, a female activist is being told by a religious Pakistani leader that she is a “whore” and that if she doesn’t respect him that he will “remove her trousers and her mother’s too.”
Let’s just take a moment to really understand why this is so disturbing on so many levels.
This comment took place while the show was being broadcasted to discuss the ongoing debate on honor killings. So he literally dishonored a woman while trying to defend the outrageous viewpoints of the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) that is drafting a legislation which dictates it is permissible for husbands to “lightly beat their wives.”
Coincidentally, Hamdullah sits on the Senate’s Religious and Interfaith Harmony Committee chair for the CII.
During the heated argument, Hamdullah told Sirmed to “act like a woman — not like a husband,” among many other offensive and derogatory statements.
It’s extremely alarming and sickening to witness a lawmaker and spokesperson disrespect and belittle someone he is supposed to represent. It is one thing to use religious references to comb one’s way through an argument, but to make sexist comments in a violent and demeaning tone is simply unacceptable.
By using a disgusting and derogatory remark and using rape as a weapon to retaliate and shut down a debate with Sirmed, he is actively enabling this behavior. To threaten rape and attempt to assault her is completely and totally and grossly unacceptable. It doesn’t get more messed up than this.
To threaten rape and attempt to assault her is completely and totally and grossly unacceptable.
Religious leaders have the responsibility to show fairness and support to all sides of the argument, and be a voice of reason.
Religious leaders have the responsibility to show fairness and support to all sides of the argument, and be a voice of reason.
Hamdullah should not be anywhere near the Pakistani senate.
It is people like him that allow patriarchy to become a part of a culture that women then have to become accustomed to. It is because of leaders like him that women are blamed for being victims of rape, and supposedly bringing dishonor to their families. In a society where women are scrutinized — and sometimes killed — for being victims, we need leaders that’ll support us — not threaten to rape us. let alone on national television, sending the message that this behavior is okay. It’s not okay, and it never will be.
In a country like Pakistan, among many other countries around the world, women are expected to stay quiet. Their voices are considered background noise. This needs to stop. Women are taken advantage of, not only inside their home, but also now on live television, while trying to defend the brutal murders of innocent girls.
In a country like Pakistan, among many other countries around the world, women are expected to stay quiet. Their voices are considered background noise. This needs to stop.
We understand that gender equality is something countries struggle with — but to be victimized by a lawmaker is a heinous act of disrespect, and absolutely demoralizing. It not only portrays Mullahs as hypocrites in the limelight, but also contradicts their title as preachers and religious representatives.
We understand that gender equality is something countries struggle with – but to be victimized by a lawmaker is a heinous act of disrespect and absolutely demoralizing. It not only portrays Mullah’s as hypocrites in the limelight, but also contradicts their title as preachers and religious representatives.
These types of disparate treatment toward women on national television further enables men to continue with abuse toward their wives, daughters and sisters. When they are told they are allowed to lightly beat a woman, when they hear a man like Hamdullah say he will take off another woman’s trousers and motion to hit her on camera… Men like Hamdullah are enablers of patriarchy and do not emulate the essence of the types of Islamic leaders we need to lead the Muslim leaders.
Rape has become such a normalized attack towards woman that a religious and political leader can use it as a tool to threaten a woman on television while defending his viewpoints on honor killings.
Let’s just let that sink in for a second.
Rape has become such a normalized attack towards woman that a religious and political leader can use it as a tool to threaten a woman on television while defending his viewpoints on honor killings.
This is what it has come to, and it is contributing in the mental development of the people watching and witnessing this type of behavior.
It should come as no surprise then to see someone defending his viewpoint advocating violence against women with violence against women.
Hamdullah outrageously personally attacks Sirmed, but isn’t even the slightest bit outraged when it comes to speaking up about the four woman that were burned alive that brought this panel together in the first place.
A religious leader who also plays the role of a political leader must be the voice of reason. Their priority must be fairness, as well as to speak out against acts of violence against woman while promoting gender equality.
A religious leader who also plays the role of a political leader must be the voice of reason. Their priority must be fairness, as well as to speak out against acts of violence against woman while promoting gender equality.
Muslim women in countries like Pakistan should have a female voice representing them against male leaders like Hamdullah who thinks it’s okay to “lightly beat a women.”
Besides treating women in an abhorrent manner, this also does a disservice to men, as it affects all Muslims everywhere, and allows Islamophobes to utilize examples like this to say that Islam is dangerous and violent, and oppressive towards women.
This man and men like him — this is not Islam.
Submitted by Maham Khan.
Very weak article and headline is a total lie. He is not a relgious leader he is a politician who is a hafiz and no he did not threaten to rape her. If you look at the insult it is a common one used in pakistan to degrade someone. Not defending what he said it was vulger but it wasnt a threat of rape.
I suggest you remove this slanderous article or at least edit it.
Jzk kher
Hafiz or not, there is no excuse in islam that permits such disgusting derogatory filth to come out of one’s mouth, in fact that makes it worse. May the wrath and curse of Allah be upon him and any such men who threaten and harm the Muslim women. This article is not slander because what happened was true and people can see for themselves what a patriarchal mess Pakistani leaders are.
You sound like an angry feminist. Instead of asking for the wrath of Allah to be upon him men of hos kind why dont you do dua for Allah to guide him on the haqq. Surely thats better for humanity as a whole? And yes the article was slander and it was lies. It didnt need too. The writer really messed this one up. Instead of people talking about this mans shameful behaviour they are plugging (and quite rightly) so many flaws nd holes im the article.
Storm in a tea cup. The writer does not even understand what was said in the video. What Fitna Marvi Sirmed is.
”Pakistani Religious Leader Uses Rape as a Threat on National TV”
Marvi Sirmed is a cultural Hindoo, drinks and smokes, wears sari exposing her huge belly and shagging arms to the public. She is an obscene fat gut land whale, physically impossible to rape even with beer goggles. All those layers of lard would come in the way even if the member was well endowed and
willing.
Marvi Sirmed is foreign funded, tasked to poison the minds of Pakistani youth against Islam and Muslim culture. She speaks against the independence of Pakistan, Partition of India, and Quaid a Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah the founder of Pakistan. She is pushing for Pakistan’s annexation by India and absorption into Akhand Bharat. Only in Pakistan where there is absolute freedom of speech can such treason be voiced so openly and on so many platforms.
MUSLIMGIRL has deliberately sensationalized the issue in title and article, and misinformed the reader unashamedly. Hafiz Hamdullah is a Senator – not a religious leader – who lost his temper after being disrespected, insulted, systematical needled and provoked by Cultural Hindoo Marvi Sirmed. No rape threats were made. That is the interpretation, projection and propaganda of Indian/Hindoo press. And unless you have lived in Pakistani culture you have not the slighest idea of the language and idiom being used in that video and other associated videos.
Hafiz Hamdullullah is Hafiz a Qur’an. As the name suggests he knows the Qur’an by heart. This is no ordinary achievement. This title is the salutation of ultimate respect and honor a Muslim can have, short of Shaheed. It is obvious that he could not tolerate the systematic abuse of Islam and Muslims by this Hindoo Agent [RAW] during Ramazan. Unfortunate that he lost his temper especially so since he was fasting. He failed the fast right there. However even this human weakness was then used by Hindoo Agent Marvi Sirmed to further provoke, insult and abuse him…using Islam as foil.
Apropos of the above and MuslimGirl’s articles currently running a racist, salacious and secular trend in its blog – suggestive of a change of mindset by MuslimGirl. Perhaps persuaded by a change in its funding sources and financing – the name ‘MuslimGirl’ no longer fits. It is therefore recommended and would be appropriate to change its name from ‘MuslimGirl’ to ‘Non-MuslimGirl’ or ‘HindooGirl’ or ‘BrownGirl’ or ‘BlackGirl’ or even ‘SecularSlut’.
FeminaziGirl maybe?
thats extremely rude, calling women secular sluts
“thats extremely rude, calling women secular sluts”
Really? English comprehension much? Would FemNazi Bi*ach fit better, do for you?
Irresponsible presentation.
plus i just want to know, doesn’t the Quran allow beating a wife lightly?
“plus i just want to know, doesn’t the Quran allow beating a wife lightly?”
Your reference please? Unless you are just trolling…!
4:34
I nominate you for the most honest man award in disqus.
thanks man.
What is that? Coming from one who cannot read, write or retain is indeed weird. Elaborate if you can. Lets see what you got?
4:34
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband’s] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance – [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
[4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
34. Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).
Verse 4:34 has been incorrectly translated above. Islam does NOT allow you to beat your wife. Many other words have been incorrectly and inappropriately translated too.
Whole whole thing is silly. Absurd. Lost in translation. The whole translation is incorrect not just the word ‘Beat’. The Quran is NOT saying what the translations above is implying.
You are an anti Muslim, anti Islam troll with little education but much presumptuous hot air. The meaning of the Glorious Qur’an is beyond your reach any case. You are nothing more than a fat old mentally ill couch potato with a diseased brain. You knowledge is surface only, from watching too much TV. Drinks, drugs, obesity, pros!itutes and porn don’t help either.
Arabic is a very rich language with dozens of meanings for each word depending on context.Your cutting and pasting from translations would be hilarious if you did not come through as a sorry sad, mentally impaired lonely lazy old man.
Uneducated people like you can’t even translate a simple Arabic word like Islam or even Muslim. Go ahead tell me what those very common words mean? Tell me what Islam and Muslim mean?
Heck, forget Arabic, tell me what does the English word ‘Run’ means? English does not begin to compare in its richness to Arabic. Yet it too has words that change their meaning as the context changes.
I could give you example after example. Here are a few. That when translated into another language would be hilarious, silly, stupid, absurd, meaningless just like the translation of Verse 4:34 above. The following when translated into another language would mean nothing like they do in English:
#RUN:
Run a marathon.
Run a tight ship.
Run silent run deep.
He is run down.
Run the bath.
Run in her stocking.
Run an experiment.
Run on the market.
Run a computer program.
Run an errand.
Running a fever.
Email is up and running.
Rivers run downstream.
Economy is running well.
A well run business.
[…]
You get the picture. I could go on and on, on this one word. Now if you translate the above into another language its meaning is not only lost in translation but turns into absurdities, nonsense just like the translation of Verse4:34 you have pasted above.
so what is the proper translation?
why do native arabic speakers give sermons on how to ‘properly’ beat your wife?
What do you mean? Are you a Muslim?
4:34
What ?
man, i thought this was a well known verse. i posted 3 translations to el cid. view the thread and you will see them. spoiler alert, it says to beat your wife.
Perhaps so in your three translations. But not so in Arabic. But I will let him speak for himself. As far as I am concerned you are way off base.
what does it say in arabic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9bRjK464Uw
“i just want to know, doesn’t the Quran allow beating a wife lightly?”
No, it does not.
yes. verse 4:34. view thread and scroll down to see actual verses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9bRjK464Uw
“We live in a time where Muslims are being scrutinized and their actions are being nitpicked and dissected.”
…and yet your sycophantic use of the words “honor killings” concocted by non-Muslim think tanks to demean and dehumanize Muslims? There is NO honor in killing. No such thing as “honor killings” in Islam. Has NO basis in Islam. Not in the Qur’an.
However much you may meme to denigrate Islam and Muslims by the use of such words – you can continue using the term to honor your inferiority complex to your hearts content – yet they carry no weight, has no reference in Islam.
Maham means full Moon in Arabic. Mahajabeen means face like the glory of a full Moon. It is usually a Muslim girl’s name. Could be Pagan Arab, though. When attached to ‘Khan’ it suggests North Pakistani Muslim girl’s name. But you don’t give out those strong confident vibes the Northern Pakistanis have. Maybe westernized or pushing its agenda.
Are you a Hindoo? If so, better that you write under a proper Hindoo name.