According to Think Progress, studies show that Islamophobia is giving Muslims mental disorders. The article says:
“Researchers are just beginning to explore the kind of toll that Islamophobia can take on the mental and physical health of Muslim-Americans — and it’s unsurprisingly harsh…Perceived Islamophobia has a distinct effect on Muslim minorities’ health and identification.”
So, if Islamophobia causes mental illness, and mentally vulnerable people are more likely to be recruited by terrorists… then we are stuck in a vicious, endless cycle of terror.
Another study that examined the experiences of religious microaggressions by Muslim Americans, published in the Islamophobia Studies Journal, found that being the victim of covert discrimination, on a consistent basis, can have an additive affect on one’s mental health and ability to function in daily life:
“Previous research has found that Muslim individuals who perceived religious discrimination had an increased likeliness of suspicion, vigilance, and mistrust and even mental and physical health problems… Negative images of Muslims in the media may have detrimental impacts on the self-esteem, mental health, and identities of Muslim people.”
But the consequences of Islamophobia can be double-edged. On the one hand, the rapidly increasing anti-Muslim sentiments are exacerbating mental health challenges for Muslims. On the other hand, mental health issues are driving some to be easy prey for terrorist organizations such as ISIL.
Teen Vogue published an article titled How Terrorism and Islamophobia Take a Mental Toll on Muslims stating that terrorists seek out mentally ill and economically poor Muslims because they can easily recruit them:
“More Muslims — who already feel marginalized — are suffering through an identity crisis and mental health disorders that make them more susceptible for recruitment by terrorist organizations.”
Aljazeera Upfront conducted an interview with the President and Co-Founder of America’s first accredited Muslim College, Zaytuna’s Hamza Yusuf, discussing the reasons for ISIL’s attacks. The show’s host, Mehdi Hasan, questioned the motives of terrorists: “Is it an issue of mental health or insanity?”
To that, Hamza Yusuf responded saying that some of it is definitely mental health issues. But he also highlighted the double standard of labeling Muslims as terrorists, while westerners who commit terrorist crimes are always immediately referred to as mentally ill:
“We had a man who flew an airplane into an IRS building after writing a political screed, yet he wasn’t called a terrorist, he was called mentally ill. There are many examples of people doing these kinds of things and they’re always classified as mentally ill. And yet when Muslims do insane things – and many of these things are quiet insane – they’re categorized as terrorists. We have a double standard.”
Lisa St. George, the Director of Recovery Practices at Recovery Innovations, said, in an interview MuslimGirl, that the challenge with mental health, whether in Muslim or non-Muslim communities, is that people apply a stigmatizing attitude to it despite how common mental health problems are. Citing multiple studies, she noted that 1 in 4 or 5 people will have a significant mental health challenge at one point in their life. She went on to say,
“I think one of the biggest challenges is the lack of understanding of [mental illness] and the stigmatizing attitude. This is not something unique in the Muslim community, it’s prevalent throughout the world. We have to treat those with mental illnesses the way we treat someone with a heart disease or cancer; we have to care for people who have mental health challenges.”
When asked about what mental health actually means, George said that it is the point in one’s life when things have gone off track because of emotional and psychological distress.
“It’s when you feel overwhelmed with worry, feeling incredibly sad, being unable to sleep for days on end, having events where you spend way too much money, hearing things or seeing things that other people don’t see,” said George.
So how do we stop the mad cycle of terror? By providing lots of healing spaces, says George, which is a practice deeply rooted in Islamic history and tradition.
“Long ago we had treated people with compassion and kindness who had mental illness challenges and we had the cure long before it seemed possible. We have forgotten that aspect of our faith to be kind and caring to people. The whole idea of healing spaces is consistent with our faith.”
Muslims have the right not to be discriminated against but non-muslims have also the right not to risk getting raped or killed. A devious dilemma.
Muslims should just convert to Christianity. That would solve the problem.
Don’t think Muslims want to join any club that you’re a member of.
well they best no leave islam.
That makes sense you c*nt
Muslims should get the hell out of Europe and go back to the shit-holes where they came from – Everything would be much better – Then the United States could nuke the middle east and rid the earth of those swine
Back where they came from? Many Muslims were born in Europe. Also, it’s the West that’s invading, bombing and and plundering Muslim-majority countries–not the other way around. Tearing up other people’s countries just leads to more chaos and more refugees.
What sort of person dreams of nuking an entire region, referring to the people as “swine”?
You really need to check yourself.
you are too funny ilisha. you call people cowards while you hide behind the wall. you, or rather garabaldi blocks anyone who will debate you:
Ilisha Mod • 5 hours ago
This is what I mean about subtle Islamophobia being as bad or worse. People may not even notice these contradictions if they weren’t pointed out this way. It’s hard to miss the stuff Trump says, and therefore people at least react to it.
I’d rather have someone come right out and say “I hate you” than play games and hide a knife behind their back. Trump *SAYS* mean things, Hillay actually *KILLS* people.
Thank you for contributing, AJ. 🙂
[EDIT: All of you who keep giving me a volley of down votes, why don’t you come out and debate me? Cowards.]
Mike, I presume? Whether you are or not, you know very well I’ve had long, involved debates with many people. Including Mike aka Joey Six Pack aka a dozen different names. And not just on LW under the cover of friendly mods.
Repeating the same inane questions and comments over and over is not my idea of a debate. Anonymous down voting is cowardly.
I hold my own in good faith debates. No one shields me on Harry’s Place and I do just fine, despite that being a rough neighborhood.
if i repeat questions, it is because you or others don’t answer them.
i’ve never made a down vote in my life, and very few up votes. i’m not big on the voting feature. don’t you think blocking people is cowardly?
so at the risk of repeating myself, do you support death to apostates? stoning adulterers and lashing drunks and fornicators? how about blasphemers?
or would you like to debate mental illness and the role of the shaitan?
I did answer those questions. Some in excruciating detail. Remember our discussion on Hatewatch?
I’m not wasting time telling you the same thing 1000x.
Is blocking cowardly? Depends on why you block someone.
well i think it is cowardly.
no, i do not recall our discussion on hatewatch, my memory isn’t what it used to be. five yes or no questions (maybe the 5th isn’t yes or no), how hard is it to say:
yes
yes
yes
yes
death to blasphemers, if they don’t repent
or whatever your answers are?
I have written in LW articles and numerous comments to you that I don’t believe in *ANY* earthly punishments for blasphemy or apostasy.
I have been saying that publicly for FOUR YEARS now. I have argued vehemently and repeatedly in comments against punishments for blasphemy and apostasy.
So what punishments do I endorse for blasphemy and apostasy?
None. Not ever.
If a person repents or doesn’t repent?
No, never. Not under ANY circumstances.
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
No punishments.
None. Not ever.
No punishment for blasphemy.
No punishment for apostasy.
None. Not Ever.
No
No
No
No
No
No
No
Clear now?
Maybe you can print this out and hang in on your refrigerator with a smiley face magnet so you don’t have to ask me again?
well that is good to hear. but certainly you can understand my confusion. you said that scholars haven’t gotten a major issue wrong for 1400 years, yet the four sunni madhabs all say you execute an apostate.
are you retracting your statement that scholars haven’t gotten things wrong.?
maybe you can convince Sufian that apostasy isn’t tantamount to treason?
Sufian • a day ago
Leaving Islam and teaching others to take the same path and harm the society is same as treason.
And unlike punishment of treason as described by US law, apostate can escape the punishment if he’s a little bit of brain.
so what of lashing drunks and fornicators? or where some of those no’s for that? i’m not sure, you have 7 no’s but there was only 5 questions???
or should we be talking about mental illness and the role of the shaitan? see, you don’t answer, so i ask again.
Based on experience, I think it’s best to keep it simple. Here I’m addressing only two issues. Do you remember what they are?
I’ll let you process that and commit it to memory.
If you succeed, perhaps we’ll move on to the next issue.
“I’ll let you process that and commit it to memory.”
Process? What process? I forget, what were you saying? Again please…
apostasy and blasphemy. no punishment. committed to memory.
would it not have been simple to answer my 5 questions in order?
so you are against stoning adulterers, but are you for lashing them and fornicators and drunks? should i enumerate?
1. punishment for adultery?
2. punishment for fornication?
3. punishment for drunkenness?
Yes, under normal circumstances, that would have been pretty simple. Though in fairness these aren’t all yes/no kinds of questions.
The problem is that these are not normal circumstances. This is a discussions with you.
We had an extremely long and involved discussion previously regarding adultery. It was filled with details about fiqh and layers of nuance, and I got the impression you never felt you got an answer.
So one has to wonder if it would make any sense at all to venture down that road again.
Instead, I’d prefer to ask you a question for a change: Why do you want to know?
What possible reason could you have for caring about my personal opinion on these matters? I’m not a scholar or a jurist. El Cid says I’m not even a Muslim. So what is the thinking behind asking a Wiccan High Priestess for answers regarding Islamic law?
Are you thinking of becoming a Muslim?
“El Cid says I’m not even a Muslim.”
Now, now, now Ilisha! I mean High Priestess don’t shame me. May be another time, coffee, chat…warmth of a log fire, long winter night!
I hope you’re not doubting me Wiccanity now. There is no such thing as Wiccan takfir, Mr. Cid. 🙂
I have never doubted you in anything Ms Ilisha. I just enjoy the comfort and warmth and beauty of your mind. Wiccan is good enough for me.
Muslim or not you are better than most. Better than me, certainly. That is not mine to judge. Just a desire to know you. Curiosity of you. Internet is good. You don’t have to worry about an ax murderer.
Just a feeling of comfort I get from you. Wanting to know the essence of you. You send out good vibes or what ever you call them. I am sensitive to yours.
There is elegance, goodness, noblesse that I pickup from you, what you write, the way you write it. I sense you as wholesome and good. And when you are sad or suffer…and when happy too.
But Wiccan is good too…just want to know about you.
“Why do you want to know?” everything.
“What possible reason could you have for caring about my personal opinion on these matters?” i care about all people’s opinions. that is why i read books and articles and polls and ask questions. life without discussion is not a life worth living.
“So what is the thinking behind asking a Wiccan High Priestess for answers regarding Islamic law?” i don’t think you are a wiccan priestess. i take you for what you say you are, a muslim. an america. a woman. is this not true?
“Are you thinking of becoming a Muslim?” no.
as for our long and involved discussion, i found it quite confusing. there is a monolith, there is a mosaic. ‘the’ scholars don’t agree, but scholars haven’t gotten anything major wrong for 1400 years.
so should i repeat my questions? 😉
Well, I don’t think I’m the best person to answer in any case. I’m not sure about some of these things myself. In daily practice of one’s religion, whether Wicca or Islam, it’s more about being a good person, prayers, charity…actual PRACTICE of religion. I have been a jurist addressing matters such as adultery precisely never.
To give you and example of something I really find confusing, the Qur’an says the punishment for adultery is 100 lashes. Yet many Muslims believe the punishment is death by stoning–a punishment never commanded anywhere in teh Qur’an. They say this is based on hadith, but the mainstream view of Islam is the Qur’an is the primary source with supreme authority above all other sources.
In another part of the Qur’an, it says under certain circumstances, an adulterer should only get half the punishment. This makes sense with lashes. 50 instead of 100. But with stoning??? Do you stone someone half to death?
Now, if you go out and read lots of opinion spanning a pretty long period of time, you will see a lot of this bit about stoning. So I geniunely find this confusing. Similarly as I mentioned previously, the Qur’an doesn’t specify any punishment for apostasy, and in fact discusses situations where people keep waivering back and forth, entering and leaving Islam. Why discuss what to do when a person returns to the fold if you were supposed to kill them for leaving? That does not make sense to me.
Reminder: I mentioned this to you just recently, along with the bit about intention…on HP within the last 24 hours.
Now, if it was just some rogue scholar here or there, it woudln’t seem to odd. People come up with all kinds of stuff so who knows? But when you get opinions that seem to have a near consensus or even a high degree of agreement and yet they don’t seem to make sense, I’m not sure what conclusion to draw. Typically I turn to scholars like the late Muhammad Assad because his explanations tend to make sense and comport with what I think is right as a layperson.
But if I don’t understand these matters, then it seems ot me you should really ask someone else.
Reminder:: I think there is no punishment for apostasy or blasphemy.
I think there is technically a punishment of lashes for adultry but the standards for conviction have been set to high as to make it nearly impossible to convict someone–and I think that’s because the point is NOT to police poeple’s individual behavior but to maintain a sound social order.
There are many examples of the Prophet Muhammad trying to steer people away from severe punishments. Some of them INSISTED on publicly confessing and being punished anyway, as a way of repenting. But the point here is that if Islam was all about punishing individuals–if that was the primary driver in these mattters–then it would be easy to convict and the Prophet Muhammad would not have been discouraging people from confessing and submitting to punishment. So I buy the idea that the punishment for adultery is about maintaining public order and protecting the sanctity of the family–not about busting down doors and dragging people our to lash or stone them as punishment for their private affairs
Those are my thoughts, as a layperson, no a professed scholar. I don’t know the ruling on alcohol. I don’t recall every looking it up. I don’t drink alcohol.
I hope that’s helpful.
yes muhammad assad translates zina as both adultery and fornication. but he is the only one i’ve ever read who does this. what is that website with the multiple translations?
some say that the 24th sura abrogated stoning:
Narrated Ash Shaibani: I asked ‘Abdullah bin Abi Aufa, ‘Did Allah’s Apostle carry out the Rajam penalty ( i.e., stoning to death)?’ He said, “Yes.” I said, “Before the revelation of Surat-ar-Nur or after it?” He replied, “I don’t Know.”
others say no and stoning should have been put in the koran:
Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas: ‘Umar said, “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, “We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,” and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” Sufyan added, “I have memorized this narration in this way.” ‘Umar added, “Surely Allah’s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.”
and note that pregnancy is proof of adultery, and most certainly by default fornication. not just the 4 witnesses or confession 4 times.
yes a slave is given half the punishment, 50 lashes, of a muslim (which brings us back to inconsistent and group a and b, but let’s leave that for a latter date). but that is generally excepted as a punishment for fornication, not adultery.
does it make sense to you to punish and unmarried fornicator equally to a married adulterer?
as for drinking:
Narrated As-Sa’ib bin Yazid: We used to strike the drunks with our hands, shoes, clothes (by twisting it into the shape of lashes) during the lifetime of the Prophet, Abu Bakr and the early part of ‘Umar’s caliphate. But during the last period of ‘Umar’s caliphate, he used to give the drunk forty lashes; and when drunks became mischievous and disobedient, he used to scourge them eighty lashes.
You mention pregnancy but I just heard a story recounted in a sermon the other day. A woman came to the Prophet and confessed to adultery. He asked if she was pregnant and she said, yes, she was. He told her to go away and have her child.
He never went after her, but after she gave birth, she came back to him once again to address her confession. He told her to breast go and to breastfeed her child for two years.
He neve went after her, but after she breastfed her chld for two years, she came back to him once again to address her confession. He still seemed reluctant to punish her, but she insisted, so they did.
No one chased after her. She could have just taken her kid and gone back to living her life. This is supposed to show that she was so devout, she would rather be punished than live with the dross of sin, whatever you make of that.
Anyway, if being pregnant is immediate proof that should result in punishment, one has to wonder about this story. There are a bunch of these stories about Muhammad discouraging people from confessing openly.
Another one we heard recently was about a guy who confessed to something and Muhammad stated a punishment but the guy said he couldn’t do it, so he stated a lesser one but they guy said he couldn’t do that either, so he gave him a lesser one…and so on until the punishment was basically that he would repent and not do it again. Again the message was that you give leniency to the degree possible, but keep a range of punishment so you have available means of protecting the prescribed social order, should it become necessary. That was the gist.
You keep offering hadith, but I’m not really a person who puts much stock in hadith. I don’t mean that I absolutely reject them. They are a secondary source, and there are different theories about them. Some people weight them VERY heavily, others not at all. Others only if the Qu’ran itself doesn’t adequately address a matter…and so on. Scholarly opinion is also a secondary source. None of that is inerrant. Thousands (literally) of hadith were redacted, and Muslims are still arguing about what role they play–Muslims don’t all even consult the same collections of hadith. So I think it’s hard to view them as authoritative. I know that’s heresy in some circles, but that’s my honest opinion.
If you want to convince me of something, you would have to show me evidence in the Qur’an. I am okay with secondary sources, but I’m not going to accept them as *authoritative*. What this means in practice is if the Qur’an doesn’t specify ANY punishment, and the hadith says “stone to death,” I would go with no punishment.
As for the unmarried/married thing, I don’t really get that. I read something about it once but it didn’t stick–maybe because it didn’t particularly make sense to me. You’ll have to ask someone else on that one.
I don’t think there is a punishment in the Qur’an for being drunk. I think it just says you’re not supposed to show up for prayer intoxicated. Again, I haven’t put a lot of emphasis on the drinking part. But I will say some of the people in my town who get drunk on a Friday night are pretty obnoxious and disorderly. I’ve been minding my own business and had them harass and follow me–and if I could have, I wouldn’t have minded doling out some lashes. 🙂
“You keep offering hadith, but I’m not really a person who puts much stock in hadith” yet you just recounted two. yes a woman is to ‘lay down her burden’ [both give birth and nurse the baby] before the stoning. and there is a hadith where a woman gives he baby to another to be wet nursed and she is stoned to death, by her own request/confession. “whatever you make of that.” i make insanity brought on by religious devotion. very similar to a suicide bomber.
Abu Huraira reported that a person had intercourse with his wife during Ramadan (while fasting). He asked for the religious verdict (about it) from the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), whereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Can you find a slave (to grant him freedom)? He said: No. He (the Holy Prophet again) said: Can you afford to observe fasts for two (consecutive) months? He said: No. He (the Holy Prophet) said: Then feed sixty poor men.
sounds like inconsistency in the law to me. or i suppose you could call it judicial desecration.
yes the turks did a huge hadith review about 10 years ago, maybe less. the saudis where not please with some of their ‘weak’ ratings. so i’ forever confused by this claim of perfection. and the shia don’t accept anything form abu huraira (the cat man) unless there is another narrator. it doesn’t sound like a good basis for national law.
so el cid says there is no call for segregation of the sexes in the koran. why do you support it?
I mentioned them because they are nice stories told in an Islamic study circle. Not because I think they should be key sources of Islamic jurisprudence.
Also if another person is saying the hadith say this and that, one counter is to use hadith that say something else. The hadith contradict each other. This is one of the reasons I don’t think they are authoritative.
There is some space beteween authoritative and totally irrelevant. I’m somewhere along that spectrum, toward the low relevance end. I would invoke hadith to fight fire with fire. As I said, when I study Islam, I study the Qur’an.
I think El Cid is right. I don’t think it’s in the Qur’an. Only the idea of complimentary gender roles. I’m not sure what you mean “support it.” I prefer gender separate socializing, whether at the masjid or for private events. I don’t support FORCING anyone into gender separate situations. In our community this really isn’t an issue. People have circles of friends matched to their preferences and I have never heard anyone complain.
yes the hadiths contradict themselves. as do many things: “when I study Islam, I study the Qur’an.” – “I mentioned them because they are nice stories told in an Islamic study circle.” see, this makes you very hard to follow. anyway, for you the koran is the end all and be all of islamic jurisprudence, but you defer to scholars [who most likely use the hadiths as authoritative]. so you can see my confusion, i hope?
so why, if it isn’t in the koran, do you support gender segregation at the mosque and private events?
“Are you thinking of becoming a Muslim?”
Do you think those punishment are central to becoming a Muslim? Thats a new one for me.
They have no practical application in Islam. Forgiveness and Mercy are central to Islam. I thought you knew that. Don’t you recall Ron!
I think if you were considering becomeng a Muslim, knowing whether or not Muslims might kill you if you changed your mind left the faith at a later time would be highly relevant.
Not really. That had to do with volunteer soldiers. Being Muslim was the uniting force. Muslims would not betray his comrades in the duress of battle. A non Muslim would.
In those circumstance leaving your faith is tantamount to treason and death for the rest. A traitor/treason under battle condition is tantamount to death for all the Muslim troops.
For example a city under siege, as happened in the first crusades, when the Jerusalem City gates were opened by one such apostate…the citizens were slaughtered by the Crusaders.
In the modern times if secret/codes are given to the enemy…!
But you didn’t ask me to explain how Islam defines apostasy. Rather you asked if I thought that punishment was central to *becoming* a Muslim.
Let’s say you are a person who has heard a bit of Islamic knowledge and you like it. Then someone says to you if you convert and then leave, they are going to kill you. I mean that sort of commentary is all over the looniverse–sometimes it’s hard to Google past the plethora of hate sites to get any sort of reasonable scholarly opinion.
If I’m this person who is thinking of conerting, and I don’t know much about Islam, frankly I think that sounds scary. So YES, I do think it’s “central to becoming a Muslim” to know if this bit about being killed is really going to happen!
Of course there are counter arguments. But would a person DISCOVERING ISLAM FOR THE FIRST TIME know the details? The nuance? The concept of jurisprudence and due process in Islam? No, probably not. So I could see exploing this avenue a bit.
You can conjure up demons based on hearsay and superstition. That is a never ending what ifs. I have no avenues to explore. The Qur’an is the highway for me!
Becoming a Muslim enters the heart from from Allah. That is why even Muhammad was forbidden to convert anyone. Its right there in the Qur’an.
Fear of death, aside the normal animal instinct, is irrelevant to a Muslim. If a person thinks before he has become a Muslim that later after becoming a Muslim he may not want to be a Muslim then that very thought is proof enough that he should not become a Muslim.
He is not ready. His heart is not ready. His mind is not ready. He can take the vow but he is not a Muslim. He is fooling and cheating himself. He is not true to himself. Becoming a Muslim is not easy. The change has to be in the heart. That come from Allah. The rest is vanity and meaningless ritual. You of all people know it more than most.
It is matter of commitment. A common theme in sports, military, love. When you must commit without hesitation. If a couple has prenuptial contract for example then they should not get married and have a family in the first place. Marriage has to be through good and bad, rain or shine, think or thin. In battle you can cut and run. When you cross the road you commit yourself to cross else get run over.
So while your questions make for intellectual discussions. Ad infinitum as in MikeSixPak case. They have no place in becoming a Muslim. You are NOT before Allah. Allah knows that little doubt, whats in your heart.
It is as simple as that. Or you can make it as complicated as you and Mike do all the time. If you are a Muslim, you know. It pervades you. Intellectual discussions don’t make you a Muslim. If you are conjuring up nebulous objections then you are not ready to be a Muslim.
What you are matters not to me. You are good. You are lovely in my eyes.The rest is between you, your God and your belief in your heart. But Muslims know other Muslims. Its a subliminal secret. LW does not have them except for 1DM and Tanveer. Without you LW will cease to exist.
But you can do what you desire most, defending rights already given in the Constitution, by studying law.
I think you do have a point. In real life, I’ve never heard a convert say he or she deliberated a whole lot or tossed around these kinds of ideas. Usually the person had an overwhelming spiritual epiphany that led him or her to Islam.
Allah invites whom He will to the home of peace.
What you present is enlightening intellectual discussion. A thirst for knowledge. A high quality mind can conjure up about anything. And then do nothing.
Your last sentence says it all. My last sentence was to encourage you to channel you awesome mental energy to your best potential. Your best advantage.
When I saw your new slogan “Doting MamaLoon”. I chocked up. You are a very loving forgiving person. You give off of yourself, bread upon the waters.
The people in your life are lucky and honored by your presence. Muslim or not you are a Jannaty. That too is in the Qur’an.
May Allah gift you with peace, honor, solace.
hate sites?
https://islamqa.info/en/20327
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam
Hanafi – recommends three days of imprisonment before execution, although the delay before killing the Muslim apostate is not mandatory. Apostates who are men must be killed, states the Hanafi Sunni fiqh, while women must be held in solitary confinement and beaten every three days till they recant and return to Islam.[87]
Maliki – allows up to ten days for recantation, after which the apostate must be killed. Both men and women apostates deserve death penalty according to the traditional view of Sunni Maliki fiqh.[86]
Shafi’i – waiting period of three days is required to allow the Muslim apostate to repent and return to Islam. After the wait, execution is the traditional recommended punishment for both men and women apostates.[86]
Hanbali – waiting period not necessary, but may be granted. Execution is traditional recommended punishment for both genders of Muslim apostates.[86]
Ja’fari – waiting period not necessary, but may be granted according to this Shia fiqh. Male apostate must be executed, states the Jafari fiqh, while a female apostate must be held in solitary confinement till she repents and returns to Islam.
Ha, ha, ha…!
That’s good. But considering his affliction its not going to do anything. Change anything. The endless loop short circuiting his brain will repeat, repeat, repeat unabated. Wait and see.
The silver lining is that you got your spirit back and humor too. We are getting you back.
Thank God!
i thought that in islamic theology mental illness, among other things, is caused by the shaitan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WIW-fTLku0